Universal Bug List/ Abused Glitches

[Kelsoo]

Well I suppose this is something that can help with keeping build notes less cluttered with minor and or major bugs, and keep it on what they are supposed to serve for... feedback on that specific build.

Post any known bugs here and if possible include screen caps or a detailed explanation. It wouldn't be to bad if you striked through any bugs that have been fixed as well or just deleted the post after it is fixed. Feel free to post known glitches that are being abused as well.

I will attempt to keep a master list here, and add parentheses next to bugs that get added to the Roadmap, currently I will try to categorize bugs as well.

Off the top of my head the bugs I've seen most often are

1. Chat scroll bug. The chat likes to arbitrarily scroll to the top every so often. Unknown (to me) cause.

Crunches bug list: Crunch

1) Town level-ups reset many UI Menus including: Tank stats, Tank Select, Leaderboards, For Sale Menu, etc.
To reproduce : Navigate to a menu and view a non default page > Level any town > Menu resets to default page

(Note: I wasn't paying enough attention to be sure, but I think that this just happened again, yet it was after a different type of server message was announced. Could it be chat related rather than strictly town-level related?)

2) Subcom bounds can overlap into neighboring regions by one tile, occupying as many as 4 regions. This can be a real pain when overlapping into an unexplored Maze region.
To reproduce : Spawn subcom in region with borders mainly intact > Notice subcom boxes overlapping region bounds

3) Can't teleport to a town if there is a red player icon covering the town icon. I think I see something similar to this on the roadmap under Mousecatcher, but I'll put this here anyway.
To reproduce : Start at Origin > Teleport anywhere else > Try to teleport back to origin by clicking on town icon > Notice that player icons prevent this

4) Convoy vehicles appear to spin counter-clockwise while in Click-to-Move Mode (follow camera).
To reproduce : Attack convoy in Click-to-Move Mode (follow camera) > You or teammates approach from rear uncloaked > When in close proximity, vehicle will appear to spin

5) Patrols despawn even when their map icon is visible, meaning: while it's in view of players or cities. This isn't really a bug, but if you are directly under the patrol, it shouldn't vanish in a puff of smoke.
To reproduce : Spawn patrol to a mostly cleared > Notice that it vanished whether you're there to see it or not

6) Inconsistent explosions when enemies die.
To reproduce : unsure. Play the game long enough with smoke on and you'll notice that some blink out while others explode.

7 Triggers used during a lag spike don't affect any enemies not currently visible.
To reproduce : Use Pred while experiencing lag > Use Tachyon Burst on incomplete Nova > After rubberband, all minions not initially visible during the Burst will be full health.

(Note: I'm not sure what could be done about this, but it certainly negates the usefulness of triggers during times of lower performance.)

8) Zoom glitch. It's possible to break the the player zoom function by rapidly zooming in/out.
To reproduce : Enter game > Using mousewheel, zoom back and forth rapidly > View breaks
Video: Link

(Note: Only verified on Win7 w/ mousewheel. I'm unable to duplicate using Q/E keys. Also, I haven't tested on a laptop trackpad.) (I can verify this on Win 8.1 in chrome as well as across XP and 7)

9) Minions react to cloaked tanks within their sight range.
To reproduce : Use cloakable class > Approach Nova while cloaked > Notice the minions' reaction to tank

(Note: Seemingly the same for seeking missiles. They still target cloaked players but do not explode.)

10) When liquidating items, if the numerical value of the offer exceeds a certain threshold of digits, then no number shows up on the confirm dialogue.

Liq

To reproduce : Find offer with several digits > Liquidate item > Notice menu


11) When traveling to waypoints, tanks take a curved route. See the video here. This seems to happen in all move modes, but is most noticeable in follow cam.
To reproduce : Use any tank > Set waypoint on map > Notice curved route

(Note: The amplitude of the arc seems to be related to distance traveled. So, small fishtails to close waypoints, but arcs several tiles wide when traveling far.)

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Jsmooths added:
fire

1) EXP not centered. Display annoyance
2) (Kelsoo IE Myself) Window resize. The game does not like to resize and offcenters if you try as well as keeping the actual gamewindow small. A problem on bigger/higher resolution monitors that can make playing the game straining for the eyes.
3) Maze regions are able to spawn in such a way that makes them impossible to enter, currently if you are experienced enough and have a trail or two you can still enter.

Zub added:
zub
1) HP value client and server inconsistency. Most obvious consequence are deaths in origin after "safe" escape.

2) Prices are stored as floats. They should be stored as integers.

3) New message scrolls the chat down even when you manually scrolled it up.


Trapped has added :
trapped
Chat command /help doesn't show whisper/private message command, or many commands, more of a annoyance then a bug



Easy fix (adding an element to an array, assuming you don't save it in the DB), low priority.

Tank Bugs and or Glitches:

1) Thunderbolt sometimes can't shoot objects within a certain range. If you were to approach a dying enemy for loot (e.g. Pizza-Voy) getting too close would cause you to stop shooting until you backed up again, taking unnecessary damage or maybe even getting killed.
To reproduce : Use Thunder > Approach any single target > Within certain distance, Thunder will (usually) stop targeting closest enemy

2) Vindicator's 4th trigger continues to heal after switching to non-Vindicator tank(s).
To reproduce : Use Vind's 4th Trigger > Switch tanks > Watch as health is replenished while taking damage. (Currently recognized on the Roadmap)

3) Cloak persists on tank switch. I can get into a trailblazer, cloak, and switch to another tank while remaining cloaked for the full duration. The most ridiculous use of this trick is to cloak yourself for an unlimited duration by constantly switching between trailblazer or any other tank where the triggers line up, IE Herc/Thunderbolt in a town. If you have a cloak ready in the wilderness it can offset the danger somewhat and provide enough time to try and switch tanks off of a Trail into one that can attack and let your shields regen.
To replicate this bug : tarbomb was able to snatch a video of himself doing it, see it here

4) Justin has found that when doing voys with a Corsair, if you use omnicharge and the enemy is hitting you, I don't take damage (obviously).
However, when Omnicharge runs out, you will suddenly start taking damage before your shield disappears or shows any sign of damage.

You can see an example here

[trapped]

Reposting this:
The buttons which trigger a request to the server (PriceRequest/LeaderboardRequest/et cetera packets) do actually trigger it both when the button is pressed for a popup activation AND when it is pressed for deactivation.
TL;DR buttons send request packets twice; put a toggle variable or something.

[Crunch]

Thanks Kelsoo. I kind of wanted to do this, but didn't think I'd be able to keep it updated over time. You should probably keep your top post updated with the current bugs, then strike through/delete the ones after they get fixed. I imagine this thread could get long.

1) Vindicator's 4th trigger continues to heal after switching to non-Vindicator tank(s).
    To reproduce: Use Vind's 4th Trigger > Switch tanks > Watch as health is replenished while taking damage.

2) Town level-ups reset many UI Menus including: Tank stats, Tank Select, Leaderboards, For Sale Menu, etc. 
    To reproduce: Navigate to a menu and view a non default page > Level any town > Menu resets to default page
   
    (Note: I wasn't paying enough attention to be sure, but I think that this just happened again, yet it was after a different type of server message was announced. Could it be chat related rather than strictly town-level related?)

3) Subcom bounds can overlap into neighboring regions by one tile, occupying as many as 4 regions. This can be a real pain when overlapping into an unexplored Maze region. 
    To reproduce: Spawn subcom in region with borders mainly intact > Notice subcom boxes overlapping region bounds 

4) Can't teleport to a town if there is a red player icon covering the town icon. I think I see something similar to this on the roadmap under Mousecatcher, but I'll put this here anyway. 
    To reproduce: Start at Origin > Teleport anywhere else > Try to teleport back to origin by clicking on town icon > Notice that player icons prevent this 

5) Convoy vehicles appear to spin counter-clockwise while in Click-to-Move Mode (follow camera).
    To reproduce: Attack convoy in Click-to-Move Mode (follow camera) > You or teammates approach from rear uncloaked > When in close proximity, vehicle will appear to spin

6) Patrols despawn even when their map icon is visible, meaning: while it's in view of players or cities. This isn't really a bug, but if you are directly under the patrol, it shouldn't vanish in a puff of smoke. 
    To reproduce: Spawn patrol to a mostly cleared > Notice that it vanished whether you're there to see it or not

7) Inconsistent explosions when enemies die.
     To reproduce: unsure. Play the game long enough with smoke on and you'll notice that some blink out while others explode. 

8) Triggers used during a lag spike don't affect any enemies not currently visible. 
    To reproduce: Use Pred while experiencing lag > Use Tachyon Burst on incomplete Nova > After rubberband, all minions not initially visible during the Burst will be full health. 

     (Note: I'm not sure what could be done about this, but it certainly negates the usefulness of triggers during times of lower performance.)

9) Zoom glitch. It's possible to break the the player zoom function by rapidly zooming in/out.
    To reproduce: Enter game > Using mousewheel, zoom back and forth rapidly > View breaks
    Video: Link 
    
    (Note: Only verified on Win7 w/ mousewheel. I'm unable to duplicate using Q/E keys. Also, I haven't tested on a laptop trackpad.)

10) Minions react to cloaked tanks within their sight range. 
    To reproduce: Use cloakable class > Approach Nova while cloaked > Notice the minions' reaction to tank

    (Note: Seemingly the same for seeking missiles. They still target cloaked players but do not explode.)

11) When liquidating items, if the numerical value of the offer exceeds a certain threshold of digits, then no number shows up on the confirm dialogue. 



    To reproduce: Find offer with several digits > Liquidate item > Notice menu

12) Thunderbolt sometimes can't shoot objects within a certain range. If you were to approach a dying enemy for loot (e.g. Pizza-Voy) getting too close would cause you to stop shooting until you backed up again, taking unnecessary damage or maybe even getting killed. 
    To reproduce: Use Thunder > Approach any single target > Within certain distance, Thunder will (usually) stop targeting closest enemy

13) When traveling to waypoints, tanks take a curved route. See here. This seems to happen in all move modes, but is most noticeable in follow cam.
    To reproduce : Use any tank > Set waypoint on map > Notice curved route

    (Note: The amplitude of the arc seems to be related to distance traveled. So, small fishtails to close waypoints, but arcs several tiles wide when traveling far.)

[fire]

1.vindicators 4th trigger-if you die while you are still healing your tank will disappear but you will not be dead. if you relog there will be no effects. however 1 bullet will kill you otherwise (as long as your 4th trigger is not active, in which case you are currently invincible.)

2.exp levels are not centered (refer here gyazo.com/7af8626da33f84807eb9c768cf0b8faa ) ty crunch

3.not sure if this one has been fixed yet, but I remember 2 maze regions spawning with the entrances facing each other and it was impossible to enter. (now it can be done with experienced people but still shouldn't have to be that way)

will edit post as i remember more bugs, surprised since i know there are quite a few im forgetting right now :s

[Crunch]

Feb 19, 2014 2:10:22 GMT -5 fire said:

2.exp levels are not centered (refer here gyazo.com/7af8626da33f84807eb9c768cf0b8faa)

Fire, your link is broken for me. Is this what you mean:

[fire]

Feb 19, 2014 14:31:03 GMT -5 Crunch said:

Feb 19, 2014 2:10:22 GMT -5 fire said:

2.exp levels are not centered (refer here gyazo.com/7af8626da33f84807eb9c768cf0b8faa)

Fire, your link is broken for me. Is this what you mean:

yes, thanks, my link was messed up because of parentheses :s

[Crunch]

Not a bug in the game, but the link to "Grid12 For Dummies" should be fixed. David moved it Here.

Amit super fix!

[amitp]

Feb 20, 2014 11:04:31 GMT -5 Crunch said:

Not a bug in the game, but the link to "Grid12 For Dummies" should be fixed. David moved it Here.

Ah, ok, updated.

[Crunch]

*Bump*
I've been updating my first post (#3) with all the little oddities I've been able to dig up. If any of you find bugs which are not on this list, please report them. We are testing after all. Also, some bugs are not crystal clear and aren't currently reproducible, if anyone has leads on any of these, make sure to say something. 

Kelsoo, if you could make your first post into a master list, that would probably be for the best and would be very awesome of you.

Happy hunting

[Justin]

Feb 18, 2014 19:47:23 GMT -5 Crunch said:

11) Corsair's Gamma Blast only shears about 916 damage from drills. I did some digging and found out about the 1500 cap in Build 49, but this doesn't seem related. does this have to do with the shield? Is the shield absorbing damage twice?
    To reproduce: Use Corsair > Gamma Blast drill > Notice shear under perform 

Drill has 4 shields, so the damage is probably absorbed by 2 of them. I can't guarantee this is why because I can't see where the structure's shields actually are (maybe a change to how enemy icons are shown on redblob viewer could help, but I don't even know if they show the enemy shields on it. The list of the shield-stats does change color but nothing actually changes besides that).

[Crunch]

Feb 28, 2014 17:02:17 GMT -5 Justin said:

Feb 18, 2014 19:47:23 GMT -5 Crunch said:

11) Corsair's Gamma Blast only shears about 916 damage from drills. I did some digging and found out about the 1500 cap in Build 49, but this doesn't seem related. does this have to do with the shield? Is the shield absorbing damage twice?
    To reproduce: Use Corsair > Gamma Blast drill > Notice shear under perform 

Drill has 4 shields, so the damage is probably absorbed by 2 of them. I can't guarantee this is why because I can't see where the structure's shields actually are (maybe a change to how enemy icons are shown on redblob viewer could help, but I don't even know if they show the enemy shields on it. The list of the shield-stats does change color but nothing actually changes besides that).

Excellent point. I just went back and payed more attention. It looks like the Drill actually has 5 shields, I did a Photoshop mock-up to show how I imagine they must look:

The outer segments have 500 strength ea. while the innermost layer has only 250. I was getting confused because the math wasn't adding up based on my initial observations. So the actual damage equation for a Corsair's shear on a Drill should look something like this:
HP - max(0, max(0, G.Blast - Shield₁) - Shield2) ;
3500 - max(0, max(0, 1166 - 500) - 250);
3500 - 416 = 3084

Interesting to note that the Gamma Blast damage above is the HP/3 rather than (HP+shields)/3 or a max of 1500. 
Thanks, Justin. I'm going to take that off the list. 

[Will]

For some reason my tank's damage alternates by 20. I'm doing 163 right now per shot but I usually do 142.... really confused.

[fire]

^ did you augment your tank recently? Or perhaps did you get better damage prisms than you had while doing 142?

[tarbomb]

Cloak persists on tank switch. I can get into a trailblazer, cloak, and switch to another tank while remaining cloaked for the full duration. The most ridiculous use of this trick is to cloak yourself for an unlimited duration by constantly switching between trailblazer and thunderbolt in a town.

Real world applications of this are rare, but the one I can think of off the top of my head is to use this to scout to a delta and clear a spot around it without having to perform the dangerous maneuver of switching tanks in the wilderness.

Edit: Another exploit is to use a tank with a cloak to get in position for a surf, then switch to a tank that does better DPS in a city. This isn't a particularly useful exploit (since it's trivially easy to get into a surfing position on a flux with any tank, even one without a cloak, so it's only use is against tacos) but it might become more of an issue if a glass cannon tank is introduced in the future.

Edit 2: It's also possible to use this with corsair kamikaze runs - switch into a trailblazer, cloak, switch to corsair, move in cloaked, and shear. Right now it isn't really a useful trick since corsair kamikazes normally reach their targets (and cloak isn't a good defense against bombs either), but if a boss enemy that primarily attacks with missiles/lasers is added, you'll probably see this being used.

Here's a video of the exploit:

[Kelsoo]

Mar 2, 2014 21:46:08 GMT -5 tarbomb said:

Cloak persists on tank switch. I can get into a trailblazer, cloak, and switch to another tank while remaining cloaked for the full duration. The most ridiculous use of this trick is to cloak yourself for an unlimited duration by constantly switching between trailblazer and thunderbolt in a town.

Real world applications of this are rare, but the one I can think of off the top of my head is to use this to scout to a delta and clear a spot around it without having to perform the dangerous maneuver of switching tanks in the wilderness.

Edit: Another exploit is to use a tank with a cloak to get in position for a surf, then switch to a tank that does better DPS in a city. This isn't a particularly useful exploit (since it's trivially easy to get into a surfing position on a flux with any tank, even one without a cloak, so it's only use is against tacos) but it might become more of an issue if a glass cannon tank is introduced in the future.

Edit 2: It's also possible to use this with corsair kamikaze runs - switch into a trailblazer, cloak, switch to corsair, move in cloaked, and shear. Right now it isn't really a useful trick since corsair kamikazes normally reach their targets (and cloak isn't a good defense against bombs either), but if a boss enemy that primarily attacks with missiles/lasers is added, you'll probably see this being used.

Here's a video of the exploit:

I found this a very long while back and told Rob, because of the nature of the bug it seems he doesn't care, this also works with Herc heal and etc, my favorite bug to use when needing to switch to a Herc in the wilderness. I'll add it though. Hornet + Cloak is a nice exploit as well.