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Corsair : decent enough as a early-game voy tank, maybe change the large cannon mod to include the small guns as well, possibly lower the back shield regen delay by 2secs

Mustang : it already has decent dps with the dmg/overdrive mods, increase the strength and regen rate on the green shields(maybe increase their size as well)

Trailblazer : needs a buff since phantom is much easier to scout with atm, maybe reduce regen delay/buff strength on shields

Avenger : similar to Corsair, decent for early voying, but might need its regen delay to be reduced a little(~2secs) if it's meant to be used for clearing

Predator : never used this but it seems decent, maybe buff the fore laser dmg mod/widen the front shields

Valkyrie : needs a nerf somewhere, maybe by reducing the front shields strength/regen rate. Its back shield could be buffed in strength and regen delay though, and its dot fire trigger is rather useless. Maybe give it an overdrive of some sort and add a second of regen delay to its front shields.

Hurricane : buff lightning dph to 30, reduce shield regen delay by 2secs. I couldn't think a way to buff this enough to be viable for solo play without making it op, minions are never enough of a problem to need a pure crowd-control tank when you could use a tank something like valk or tbolt. There was a suggestion once about changing lightning to be able to hit the same target more than once, maybe have any hits after the first do half the dmg if that'll be op, though I have no idea how doable is that.

Hornet : mostly fine, maybe change trigger4 to hit 3-4 mins at a time

Hercules : not sure how should this tank be buffed besides increasing bomb dmg, single segment shields don't work unless you have a trigger to restore it like vind

Fury : buff dps by about 4dph per gun and maybe change the shield strength mod to buff all 4outer shields

Spectre : reduce its shield regen delay to about 6secs for the front and 4 for the back, maybe change its overdrive as well to reduce dph by 25% and buff rof by 150%, keeping the turn rate bonus the same

Wildfire : lightning gun is useless for crowds, maybe have the overdrive buff dmg/rof instead of range. Its front shields could also use a reduction in regen delay.

Paladin : buff its back shields in strength or regen delay, increase heal gun rof/dmg

Minotaur : already decent for clearing, but changing its invincibility length mod/triple bomb dmg mod to a main gun rof mod would make it more viable for modding 

Kraken : change either of the trigger damage mods to a aux gun dmg mod

Vindicator : the burst damage needs a buff, maybe to about 750/800

Thunderbolt : lightning mod bonus needs to be nerfed to 1.05 as well, lightning dmg nerfed to be below hurricane's, and the shields to have 1-2secs of added regen delay. Its overdrive should be nerfed as well, currently it ties with Viking's overdrive, tripling dps with prisms/augs and quadrupling without, and with a 10second shorter trigger cooldown than Viking.


Stun needs a buff for it to be useful in normal clearing, maybe allow all forts to be stunned again?

Probably got a little biased towards some tanks and suggested too much of a buff, but the lightning nerf to tbolt is definitely needed.

[Justin]

Oh yeah, I just remembered my vindicator suggestion which I think may still be applicable.

Of course, I'd rather you consider implementing CrunchTime's suggestion before even thinking about mine

Both a shield regen and a heal regen seem unnecessary for vinds purpose. I think one of those should be replaced with the ability to switch modes.

The new mode would disable natural health regen and shield regen for the vind, as well as removing the possibility of healing from outside sources like it does now. This mode would basically be a 'berserk' mode for vindicator. (However, in the mode where natural regen is enabled, healing from outside sources SHOULD be enabled as that could become 'beef' mode and allow it to truly act as a 'tank').

Jun 2, 2014 5:17:45 GMT -5 trapped said:

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Betcha' can't look me in the eye anymore, can you, sonny?

Jun 2, 2014 6:08:09 GMT -5 zub said:

Players asking for nerfs should attach videos of them tearing towers in speed region solo with aforementioned tanks. Thank you.

So I just went into a speed region undebuffed on a thunderbolt (unmodded). Gave up after about a minute when I encountered the tower that fires yellow circle projectiles (not homing).

It definitely makes me appreciate my viking a bit more, and I don't suppose a further nerf is necessary for tbolt (unless I've forgotten something about modules for this tank).

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Some of the tanks people are mentioning as needing a nerf are only OP because of their modules. Ever since I started going for modules in this game, the enjoyment I got out of the game greatly decreased. Probably because it's a type of progression based solely on chance/merching through the shop.

Oh yes, the market. That's still an issue. Duping, alts, all that relating to the market. Implement something that forces players to have to buy access to the market with real money in the future? I know before realm went down and 30+ people were wall farming, I rarely ever bought anything from the market, yet had most of the tanks in the game. Sure I didn't have a lot of modules but those separate veterans from newbies.

[zub]

Market "issues" result from the nature of the game and are inevitable.

"duping" (actually altboxing)
Loot is shared and is predictable. Reward players for hard work and not being at the right place at the right time, wall-farming was step at the right direction. Fair rewards for clearing regions are needed desperately.

"alts" (probably meant as using them for storage)
Storage is limited and difficulty of upgrading it rises exponentially. Your storage is full and you can't store anything. You can either sell your precious items to a random alt or you can make an alt yourself, what will you do?

If those thing are unacceptable, deal with the cause, as these are just consequences.